25 April 2015

Top earners in JYP, YG and SM

Instiz: Idol groups who earn the most in each of the agencies from Big 3


YG- Big Bang
YG would be over without Big Bang 


JYP - 2PM
Although Suzy is popular in Korea, 2PM earns more through concerts abroad 


SM - TVXQ
Last year, they earned 36.9 billion yen(?) with their Japanese music sales (5th, the only Korean Idols in Top 15) + earned 100 billion won through their concert tour 


-YG needs to take good care of Big Bang 

-Most profits are earned through Japanese concert tours... One of the reasons why boy groups earn more than girl groups 

-Lee Junho looks so cute


29 comments:

Sandy Claws said...

If the info above and my calculations are correct TVXQ made around $400 USD last year... Well, fuck. No wonder SM investors are freaking out now that Yunho has to enlist.


:(

lilah_lilah said...

"$400 USD last year... "

400? I think you missed something there.

Sandy Claws said...

I forgot to type "million" lol fixed.

Totallyajapanesenetizen said...

That's so fake. Beyoncé, Madonna, Mariah Carey etc. total networth are 500 USD. There is NO way TVXQ makes more money than they do. Taylor Swift is only worth 200 million and she sells way more labums than them AND only does stadiums.

Sandy Claws said...

That is why I said if the info was correct. Hmmm, since she did put a question mark on the "yen" part though, let's change it to wons. In that case then they would've made roughly $127 million USD. That seems more like it perhaps?


Also keep in mind that the revenue does not all go to them, only a portion of that. The rest goes to Avex and SM.

penpen said...

Lee Junho is always cute XD

Totallyajapanesenetizen said...

SM only made 30 million total USD last year. So that means Exo, SNSD, and TVXQ combined inky made 30 million USD.

Sandy Claws said...

You are talking about their net profit though, the figures above are most likely for their total revenue.

aeterna009 said...

Just imagine if one of Big Bang goes to army.. YG needs to debut iKon this year and. Make comebacks for Winner, Akdong and Lee Hi for the entire year.

pot said...

the only accurate data is that TVXQ makes 50% of SM's revenue. the other half is from the rest of SM artists.

Thuy Anh Pham said...

SM made more than $200 million last year

Alisson said...

TVXQ, Big Bang and 2PM will enlist soon, how are you SM, JYP and YG?

Anonymous said...

With the investment for 2 people, SM got out that much from TVXQ. No wonder why people said they are golden boys of SM now.

placeforu said...

i think EXO is actually done with their debut debt considering the amount of concerts they have. That's why u can see EXO having many concerts in Japan and all around Asia coz concerts bring in the most revenue. SM knows they need to utilize EXO before everything falls apart.

Anonymous said...

with all the things have happened to exo and the investment for everyday schedule/comeback, i think they have to pay these costs first. The debut debt is only completely paid back if they continuously have a great amount of extras after paying the cost above

Lily said...

I think album sales and concert tickets will probably cover even comeback investment costs, unless SM is doing strange things with its accounting.

Anonymous said...

The way SM calculates things are very "unfair". To pay debts, usually idols need to use their own money (the leftover after dividing the income with SM). Also, the comeback investment cost more than we can think especially when they have that many members. The album sales can barely cover that. They have concerts but not that many compared to other artists'. The other thing is management cost. If there is any negative news, the company has to pay the media to put up good articles. If the company stock drops because of the news, the group is also somehow responsible for the loss. Look at how many troubles exo has caused...

eeddee said...

Where did you hear that? Because there is no way TVXQ makes that much of SM revenue if you ask me they make at most 25% not 50%.

eeddee said...

You are wrong because that 30 mil is SM share of profits. The money they have left after they paid their artists their share.

lyra2015 said...

Tvxq going strongerr even for 2 person. Good choice for them not to folow jyj path

me2 said...

lol the delusion is real here.
jyj is basically carrying their company right now - because of them CJes could afford expensive top rated actors.
And Big Bang is basically carrying YG.

jaghatar said...

no they are making 50% of the revenue there has been several articles about it

eeddee said...

Well I have never seen articles that said that but if you have seen those I must say that the information is definitely wrong. I mean you are allowed to use some common sense. There is no way TVXQ is making as much as Suju, SNSD, Shinee, EXO, f(x), BoA + other SM soloist and actors combined.

hyong !!! HYONG !!! said...

o__o


why wouldn't you think that? they've released single after single + 2 japanese albums last year and they hold dome tours... do you know how much money dome tours rake in??? or are you totally clueless? other than that they also had a comeback in korea in the first half of 2014 selling the most in the first quarter of the year ... it's obvious tvxq is sm's cash cow in japan. their sales in japan are amazing... maybe you should go research more on what they've done in the past year lol. it's definitely believable if you think about their japanese tour and their japanese sales. 50% might be an exaggeration though, I think 40% seems a little more believable. Of course these 'financial experts' or whatever who said that may not have a full insight into SM.


However, you can't deny that tvxq is the top earner in SM.

hyong !!! HYONG !!! said...

Honestly I'd put Big Bang's popularity ahead of TVXQ's. From an observation. In terms of public recognition? hm.. I'd say TVXQ has more casual fans since it's been a long time and many people were OT5 fans rather than OT2 so they're a bit more subdued. So I'd say the public recognizes them both as talented groups pretty equally (or dare I say they view TVXQ more favourably because of their achievements).


I think JYJ does feel regret actually. Of course when they filed the lawsuit they took into account of the things that they were going to lose but I think they didn't plan ahead enough because they didn't realize that they were going to get blocked in Japan as well. TVXQ's net worth is higher than JYJ's (this i'm sure of) so I'm sure they may feel a twinge of regret.


They seem happy nowadays though so as long as they're happy, I'm happy.

hyong !!! HYONG !!! said...

Why are you talking about net worth tho.

eeddee said...

I think that because I have done my research. I know about TVXQ huge tours and great albums sales etc.. just like I know what other SM artists did last year so that is why I can say there is no way TVXQ is responsible 50% of SM revenue. I think 40% is also too much 30% would be better guess. I mean you obviously know what TVXQ did last year so now you should look what all other SM groups did last year and put all those together and you will realize TVXQ alone is no match for that.

hyong !!! HYONG !!! said...

I see where you're coming from but I'd be interested to know what the other artists did (if you would explain that to me bc I don't follow much of SM artists other than TVXQ and a bit of exo)? Well I'm sure the other top earners of SM last year were Suju, SNSD and EXO since they were the /most/ active last year?

Yes, I see your point since I don't know the exact percentage as well. I'm just assuming based on the articles I've read and I agree that 50% seems like an exaggeration. My point is just that TVXQ are the top earners of SM ((or shall i say one of the top)) so when Yunho enlists, SM needs to make up for the lost profit. The point is, they're losing their #1 cash cow in Japan. I think that it is pretty believable.


But thank you for explaining your opinion, it's interesting to talk about lol :P

eeddee said...

Yeah TVXQ definitely is the biggest money maker in SM that should be completely clear for everyone no matter how you look at it.
The reason I think TVXQ making 50% of SM revenue or even close to is just wrong is the fact that it would mean what TVXQ did last year should be quite equally to that of rest SM put together,


If we for example we compare TVXQ concert attendance last year to other SM groups that had concerts. Last year TVXQ had concerts for about 650k people while rest SM groups had: Suju 400k, EXO 350k, Shinee 300k, SNSD 250k so those groups in total had concert attendance of 1,3 million. So you can see that is nowhere near equal TVXQ loses easily if we put them alone against rest of SM popular groups. Same thing would happen if we would compare anything else Album sales, CFs or individual activities etc.. Also don't forget rest of SM isn't just those 4 other popular groups. f(x), BoA, Red Velvet and some actors in SM also earn money.


Anyway you are right SM will lose quite big part of their revenue when TVXQ is out of the picture but I don't think it will be that bad since EXO revenue this year definitely gonna go up compared to last year. SM is gonna debut their new boy group this year also I am sure SM is gonna release some TVXQ material like compilation album and DVDs in Japan next year. So all of those thing are gonna make the impact of TVXQ out of the picture effect smaller. I mean SM survived just fine when TVXQ law suit happen and TVXQ their biggest money maker at the time was inactive like 1,5 years.